tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post1789166566629132603..comments2024-03-26T14:10:34.668-04:00Comments on Membership Marketing Blog: The Growing Concern over Membership ValueTony Rossellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05288238496792646049noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-18537392062555078462010-06-16T17:36:26.245-04:002010-06-16T17:36:26.245-04:00Cris -- Thanks for the excellent comments. I woul...Cris -- Thanks for the excellent comments. I would agree with you. I think that members do know what they want. In a long ago post titled, "What do Members Really Want?" I tried to outline three components of the value that members seek -- Vision, Reward, and Relationship. Feel free to add your thoughts. Tony <br /><br />http://membershipmarketing.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-do-members-really-want.htmlTony Rossellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05288238496792646049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-4201081934591974242010-06-16T17:25:15.465-04:002010-06-16T17:25:15.465-04:00Jennifer -- Thanks for the comment. I will delete...Jennifer -- Thanks for the comment. I will delete the duplicate posts. Sorry blogger was not cooperating. <br /><br />I appreciate the feedback on the question. Remember that the responses from the suvrey are coming from association staff, not members. It is the perception that they have of the members. So although cost and value are two views of perhaps the same situation, I was interested to see how membership staff framed their views. TonyTony Rossellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05288238496792646049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-63236293481582902032010-06-16T17:19:49.479-04:002010-06-16T17:19:49.479-04:00I'd probably take issue with the statement &qu...I'd probably take issue with the statement "Members don't generally know what they want." too. Most of the datasets that I have seen would counter that argument. The problem is that most associations haven't really figured out how to tap in to it. Which is a shame. Again, reading between the lines of most meta-research, you find that associations don't want to create value, they want to be valued. Different things.Crisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-29837924156943414892010-06-16T17:15:19.268-04:002010-06-16T17:15:19.268-04:00I'm not so sure that the comment "To some...I'm not so sure that the comment "To some extent the question of value and cost are interchangeable" is not a tad misleading. The trouble with this definition is that it requires membership to be transactional. Consumption of value isn't transactional, and therefore the traditional models, definitions and measures of value start to break down.Crisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-15432933166148353712010-05-28T17:17:37.066-04:002010-05-28T17:17:37.066-04:00Roee and Belinda -- Thanks for the comments. Very...Roee and Belinda -- Thanks for the comments. Very helpful points. <br /><br />This value question has been something that I have been thinking about a lot lately. Here is something that we are putting in place to try and get a better handle on the question. We are launching in-depth qualitative interviews with several of our clients speaking to new members and recently lapsed members. We want to drill down beyond the easy answers of cost and value to try and better understand motivations for joining or leaving the association. Typically this requires asking the same question three times before the "true" reason comes out. If we can better unwrap these issues, my hope is we can better communicate with members OR add the services and products that they need. I agree with Belinda, you cannot just ask, "What do you want?" <br /><br />So thanks for the thoughtful comments and by the way Belinda, best wishes on your happy event. <br /><br />TonyTony Rossellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05288238496792646049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-61338710030909469092010-05-26T20:51:06.577-04:002010-05-26T20:51:06.577-04:00Hi Roee, That's a great question. Members don&...Hi Roee, That's a great question. Members don't generally know what they want. Which is why putting questions like "What services do you think we should provide" is a waste of time. <br /><br />Instead I try to answer the questions ... "What is the worry that is most likely to wake the member up at 5am in the morning worrying". <br /><br />If you can figure out what you members are worried about, and the fears they have for their career, profession, industry, etc, than working out an appropriate mix of services that will deliver value is much easier.<br /><br />Of course, tailoring your communications so that the member both recieves value AND perceives they are recieving value is another question entirely!Belinda Moore (formerly Busoli)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13982426500321656948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-44776171629170192772010-05-26T20:43:14.304-04:002010-05-26T20:43:14.304-04:00The key here is perceived value. The member must ...The key here is perceived value. The member must feel that they are benefiting from their membership. (obvious but critical) But this is good news and would lead to the next survey question: What would make your membership feel more valuable?Roeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000296350467075375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-65779683255590938952010-05-26T07:12:46.162-04:002010-05-26T07:12:46.162-04:00When a member joins an organisation they are makin...When a member joins an organisation they are making an investment in something important to them (whether their career, business, etc). Their decision to renew is based on whether they believe they generated a return on that investment.<br /><br />For that reason, I've always considered renewals simply a referendum on member satisfaction. <br /><br />I've recently done some work with a professional organisation whose membership fees start at $10,000. They have an excellent retention rate. Their surveys show that their members believes they are recieving excellent value for money.<br /><br />If the member believes that the membership is valuable they will renew. Therefore whether someone renews comes down to whether they percieve (rightly or wrongly) that the membership is value for money. <br /><br />Therefore I believe the standard of your communications (how they are targeted, how relevant they are, and whether they convey the concept that the membership is "valuable") is an key component of successful retention.Belinda Moore (formerly Busoli)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13982426500321656948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-31801687421438458642010-05-24T10:19:16.376-04:002010-05-24T10:19:16.376-04:00David -- Good point. To some extent the question ...David -- Good point. To some extent the question of value and cost are interchangeable. However, as a marketer, I feel that I have more to work with if members do not renew because of a perceived lack of value instead of it simply costs too much. I have rarely seen the lowering of dues make a big difference in membership renewals, but I have seen a better communication of benefits or an increased use of products and services result in better renewals. TonyTony Rossellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05288238496792646049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8701810422851568415.post-90227162036700346902010-05-22T15:45:50.786-04:002010-05-22T15:45:50.786-04:00Was it really lack of value that led to non-renewa...Was it really lack of value that led to non-renewal or was it the cost of membership?<br /><br />Members may want more value because they can't, or won't, pay as much as they used to. <br /><br />So, it may be value AND cost.David M. Patt, CAEhttp://www.aem-patt.comnoreply@blogger.com